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Post by Rob Mariano on Dec 14, 2010 23:19:57 GMT -5
 Sierra, Austin, Fabio... First off I want to say congrats to the 3 of you for making F3. It's been great playing with all 3 of you in this game, so I have a few questions/comments for you about things that I have observed from each of you over the chorus of this game. I'll start with Fabio first: Fabio: I have a few comments for you. I am still really disappointed that you voted for me in the F4, and I was actually told I could trust you too *looks at you and shakes head* Matter of fact, the jury hated me and I told you guys that after you booted me , and I mean yes I have voted people that felt they could trust me too, but it's not even that. It's the fact it feels like you let "certain" people influence your decision into voting me out tonight... and not only that. You came in here with 2-3 other people in a pre-game alliance, and I mean I know you will play with people that you know in ORGs from time to time, but it's really unfair to everyone else who decides to play fairly and not do pre-games, for you to just come in here with one. What I want you do is do Fabio, is I want you to defend your need for making a pre-game alliance to make it to the end. Sierra: Sierra, I'll tell you this, you got one big mouth  I mean the minute I told you about my HII, everyone at our camp, and the other camp knew about it, and honestly... it did make me upset with you and made me want you out at a point, but I never voted you and you never voted me, so thanks for having my back in this game buddy.  My question for you Sierra is why do you deserve to win this game over Austin and Fabio? because most of your luck seemed to rely on your uncanny skill for winning rewards. Austin: Austin, I really underestimated you as a player in this game. I thought you were a weak player, but you beat 3 of us in one challenge for Aarde and me in a tiebreaker, so you definitely surprised me, however... I feel your longevity in this game relied on a lot of luck, cause your name was coming up at every TC almost. My question for you Austin, is tell me, how much of this game is luck, strategy, skill, and social play? I want you to split this from 100% (40% strategy, 10% skill, etc.) Good luck guys and I look forward to you responses! -The Robfather |
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Post by Sierra Reed on Dec 14, 2010 23:28:52 GMT -5
Love ur questions Rob!!!! I will get to them as soon as I get back from work tomorrow (power problems permitting)... For now, I'm off to bed. I miss you already  |
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Post by Fabio Birza on Dec 14, 2010 23:44:06 GMT -5
Sierra, Austin, Fabio... First off I want to say congrats to the 3 of you for making F3. It's been great playing with all 3 of you in this game, so I have a few questions/comments for you about things that I have observed from each of you over the chorus of this game. I'll start with Fabio first: Fabio: I have a few comments for you. I am still really disappointed that you voted for me in the F4, and I was actually told I could trust you too *looks at you and shakes head* Matter of fact, the jury hated me and I told you guys that after you booted me , and I mean yes I have voted people that felt they could trust me too, but it's not even that. It's the fact it feels like you let "certain" people influence your decision into voting me out tonight... and not only that. You came in here with 2-3 other people in a pre-game alliance, and I mean I know you will play with people that you know in ORGs from time to time, but it's really unfair to everyone else who decides to play fairly and not do pre-games, for you to just come in here with one. What I want you do is do Fabio, is I want you to defend your need for making a pre-game alliance to make it to the end. Sierra: Sierra, I'll tell you this, you got one big mouth I mean the minute I told you about my HII, everyone at our camp, and the other camp knew about it, and honestly... it did make me upset with you and made me want you out at a point, but I never voted you and you never voted me, so thanks for having my back in this game buddy. My question for you Sierra is why do you deserve to win this game over Austin and Fabio? because most of your luck seemed to rely on your uncanny skill for winning rewards. Austin: Austin, I really underestimated you as a player in this game. I thought you were a weak player, but you beat 3 of us in one challenge for Aarde and me in a tiebreaker, so you definitely surprised me, however... I feel your longevity in this game relied on a lot of luck, cause your name was coming up at every TC almost. My question for you Austin, is tell me, how much of this game is luck, strategy, skill, and social play? I want you to split this from 100% (40% strategy, 10% skill, etc.) Good luck guys and I look forward to you responses! -The Robfather |
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Post by Rob Mariano on Dec 14, 2010 23:52:53 GMT -5
Okay, first off... I did not have Brett from the start of this game. Yes I knew him from SBB, but you can ask him too, it took him a while before he could trust me in this game, we both didn't apply with a pre-merge . Secondly, okay maybe it was wrong on my part to go off on your pre-game alliance because it makes me a hypocrite in turn, I did have one in SBB, but my alliance failed epically.
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Post by Austin Carty on Dec 15, 2010 13:56:47 GMT -5
Hey Rob, I'd say to divide the four categories... 50% Luck- Sierra has mentioned luck a couple times in her statements so far in FTC, and i'd have to agree. I mean immediately in the beginning of the game, you get lucky for who you start this game with on your original tribe. Will you find people who like you and vice versa? Are you strong in comparison or not? Luck is a big deal in Survivor, even actual players (Marty for one) in their confessionals admit luck has to do with the game. I'd say this is the biggest factor. 30% is strategy. For me coming into this game, I knew that if I let my abrasive, pesterring personality take me over, I wouldn't last to the merge let alone where I am now. I let myself be further away from the main action on purpose because people don't target the "underlings" (i.e., me) as much as the head honchos (Ashley blindside was a great example of this, I wasn't told she was leaving, but I was blindsided mentally just as much as her. I was on the outs like Ashley, but cus she was big and abrasive personality, she left not me). Social Play would be about 15% of your success in the game. Perfect example is Dan from Nicaragua. The dude is a piece of shit, and he sucks at any strategy and social awareness, but the guy lasted to the final 6 (and maybe longer, idk). But I wasn't a wall flower in this game. I knew what was going on in terms of the votes. Ever since tribal council 6, I have always voted for the person who went home. Would somone who was considered a weak player have that glorious of a statistic? I think not. 5% Skill- It takes very little skill to play this game. You could be the most feeble person on the face of the earth, but still make it far in this game based on luck. Anyone can win Survivor (hopefully me in this case ), so the presumption that it takes a truckload of skill is incorrect. I hope you enjoyed my answer and thanks for the fun times Rob. |
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Post by Rob Mariano on Dec 15, 2010 15:07:54 GMT -5
Austin, I meant to say challenge winning for your question, not skill. I was just tired last night so sorry about that. :\
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Post by Austin Carty on Dec 15, 2010 15:49:40 GMT -5
Alright, um I guess for easy math I'll keep challenge skill at the 5%. Besides being a complete dumbass in challenges leading to early pre-merge boot, your challenge experience really shouldn't matter. If you are a challenge threat, then its even more important for that social game to come into play to secure your spot. But to me, social game is a much bigger factor than your challenge abilities or lack there of.
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Post by Sierra Reed on Dec 15, 2010 17:06:34 GMT -5
My question for you Sierra is why do you deserve to win this game over Austin and Fabio? because most of your luck seemed to rely on your uncanny skill for winning rewards.All of the luck I have been referring to when talking about myself up untill now has been focused on that, winning those rewards. Of course, that's obviously not just luck, I won those because of that skill factor you stated. And my surviving after giving everything away/using it on other people was definately not because of luck. As I stated in John's questioning, all of these wins made me more of a threat, yet the only reward I ever hung onto was my double vote, which was mandatory to keep, and my HII which I got right at the end and only held onto for a single round. So, I became a big threat, and survived anyway because of social and strategic gameplay. My skill in social gameplay, despite my reputation as the loudmouth, is evidenced by my never having recieved a single vote all game, any vote at all, nullified or not, and by my always knowing who the vote was for. To one-up Austin's stat that he mentioned, I ALWAYS voted the person who went home, up until I voted to force a tie to TRY and get you through to the finals. I knew that this was going to be a tie but I voted this way because I am, despite what all of you may think, loyal. As loyal as I can be in a game where I was last man on the totem pole in every alliance I ever had. I also voted to force the tie here because I knew Rob was less of a jury threat... Which brings me to strategy. A very good example of this is... well... not voting to bring the underdog, Austin, to the finals over Rob. Another example would be when I found out that Monica had told Fabio about having an idol or "something to block some votes" as soon as I let her know I had gotten my HII. I hadn't told anyone besides Monica yet but I figured that people had best know that I am the one who got the idol, and have them think I was going to use it, or fear enough that I would to not vote me out with Monica. So I gave this info to Rob and to Fabio and then low and behold, everyone knew I had the idol and was going to use it. I then even went on to use it next round, to send Stephenie home instead of Austin, in case Rob won the final immunity (lets be honest, Fabio and Stephenie would have voted me out in that scenario, easily). This kept Austin around who I knew Rob was worried would win the vote based on the whole underdog thing, and his being friends with JT and having Monica campaigning for him (or atleast it looked like that's what Monica's angle was, to keep Austin around so he would win). I figured everyone would be smart enough to see that Austin was a bigger jury threat than little old simply-lucky Sierra... and they'd send him home. I think that covers most of my very strategical points... I feel I deserve to win the game because I DID play the most strategic game, and I DID play the most social game (all-be-it I became the loud-mouth, I was still out there finding out exactly what was going on, even when it came to my own blindside)... and I DID play the most skillful game when it came to challenges. For strategy... I made big decisions all game long, by myself, and looking out for myself. In the vote when Heidi left, I became the swing-vote when it was clearly easy for everyone to just vote me and wait till the merge to go at it. I made the decision to go with Fabio and Steph for awhile to go after JT's side. And then later I became another swing-vote and decided to vote out Fabio and Steph's ally, Monica, over Austin. Even when Brett left, Monica had gone through three different names (after I won immunity and she couldn't get rid of me). She went through Austin, Rob, and Brett's names, and somehow after talking to her about it for a looooong time she ended up voting Brett, the one person who would have helped her more than anyone else to blindside me the following round. Wow I feel like I am almost just rambling. I should just summarize now and take off for a bit... I was the most out there socially, strategically, and physically of the three people left. It is really difficult to deny that. In fact, I used two of my rewards that everyone seems to be focusing on in order to keep these two other finalists in the game. If it weren't for my using them when I did, they wouldn't be here with me. I hate to risk sounding egotistical, because for awhile I actually didn't feel like I completely deserved to win this game, but after really thinking about it, I do believe that I was the biggest controlling factor in more parts of the game than anyone out of myself, Austin, and Fabio. So I would love your vote, but I'd completely understand if you didn't vote me. I honestly don't expect to get very many votes, even though I realy do feel that I deserve them. Thanks for the question Rob. Sorry for talking for so long. You got me thinking a lot about what I've actually done in getting myself to this point
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Post by Rob Mariano on Dec 17, 2010 19:54:58 GMT -5
Almost forgot, thanks for the responses guys and once again, good luck!
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Post by Stephenie LaGrossa on Dec 18, 2010 21:08:50 GMT -5
[ I actually only had a pre-game alliance with one person, and that was Steph since we were together in Tonga. Monica I hid my identity from the whole game because in Tonga, I was partly responsible for her going home, she was more with Steph than me. The other Season 1 players, Heidi and JT were the ones who were after me on the new Aarde tribe, they were definitely not with me. So if you want to fault me for having an alliance with one person pre-game, you can, I'm sure you had Brett from the start and many other players had alliances with at least 1 other player as well. Didn't you have a Pre-game alliance in Survive Big Brother?Actually, Fabio and I never even spoke about the word "alliance" at any point in either game. We were just really great friends who both knew we were loyal to each other and to others that earned that trust from us. A mutual respect, loyalty and friendship is not that common in org's, so the first time we ever played together we just clicked and the rest is history. I love Fabio to death and we have never asked each other for an alliance - our friendship is stronger than any alliance could be! <3 |
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I mean the minute I told you about my HII, everyone at our camp, and the other camp knew about it, and honestly... it did make me upset with you and made me want you out at a point, but I never voted you and you never voted me, so thanks for having my back in this game buddy. 
