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Post by Brett Clouser on Dec 17, 2010 15:40:31 GMT -5
Popcorn is only healthy it you don't douse it in butter like me.
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Post by JT Thomas on Dec 17, 2010 15:43:41 GMT -5
oh but thats kinky Brett, buttering things
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Post by Sierra Reed on Dec 17, 2010 15:55:40 GMT -5
All I know is somehow Monica's chat got into Amanda's hands, and the only person I copied and pasted it too was you. It was actually a noble thing to do, its just that it may have lost Monica from the jury for you.
It is true u went to Monica right after I warned you saying: " sierra reed (10:08:36 PM): thnx for telling fabio everything and trying to blindisde me",, which Monica cornered me with, and that pissed me off because I was trying to give you the heads up,, probably the only time I cursed at you during the game. I don't believe you intentionally were trying to screw me, it was just an lapse of judgement at the time, but I thought thats why Monica went after me. But thats what I was talking about in my statement
I did focus on what I did also, but Stephen asked us to explain why I played a harder game and deserved more than the other two finalists, so thats what I did. what is with bringing up past games here? especially ones you weren't even in. and since you brought it up, i made finals in japan, after i started to care about the game. Monica was going after you before you told me about her. Like I said, IMMEDIATELY after Brett left she asked me if I was down with voting you out. The time frame is very important here. Whatever you thought, it was wrong. Secondly, Monica was not voting me to win the game, she was voting for Austin. And then you if not Austin. This is just you talking to her and believing her and following her lies like usual. She is out of the game now, so can we drop her? Who lets a jury member decide their strategy for them anyway? If you wanna keep insulting me (Carolina) then I'm not going to be nice to you anymore either. And on the topic of having a big mouth, why did you ever send me the convo where you and Monica were deciding which of the final 4 you should vote? Seems like... if you KNOW I have a big mouth... doesn't sending that to me make you have just as big a mouth? Honestly... stop slandering me because it'll only end up showing that you are just as bad as me. And seriously, you're ETHAN? REALLY? HONESTLY? That's kinda egotistical to say, in my opinion.
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Post by Stephen Fishbach on Dec 17, 2010 16:12:04 GMT -5
*Takes some popcorn and sprinkles hot sauce on it*
This is def the most entertaining jury thread, and we haven't even gotten to Austin and Sierra
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Post by Austin Carty on Dec 17, 2010 16:13:18 GMT -5
Okay hey, I'll answer the question.
Stephen- Jackie (Gabon). Really nice girl who was in a good position on her old tribe, but got burned the first round of a tribal swap.
Darrah- Natalie B. (Micronesia) She has a fierce 'tude buy you like her for it. Definitely fun to watch
John- Jed (Thailand): wasn't too vocal, mightve left a bit premature
JT- Brenda (Nicaragua) I personally think Brenda is smarter than Parvati, so her combo of brains and beauty work to her advantage.
Jimmy- Ace (Gabon) Very smart guy and a tad devious. Tries working every angle but it didn't pan out for him.
Brett- The real brett works well for him but since I can't use that I'll go with Rafe from Guatemala. Both are competent, strong competitors who used their likability to go far.
Monica- Jerri: A black widow for sure. She spun her web well around this game, but it wasn't sticky enough to keep her potential victims within her grasp.
Stephenie- Erinn (Tocantins). She plays a quiet game but a fairly strong game. She almost found a crack in the alliance and almost got me out, but it didn't work just like Erinn couldn't get JT/Stephen to split.
Rob- Hopefully this isn't too bad but he's a nice russell hantz with a smile on his face. Gets along well with ppl, and uses it to his advantage. But always thinks bout the game
Fabio- Dreamz: The dude is throwing ppl under the bus left and right. He also betrayed Yau man in the final 4. Fabio betrayed rob in our final 4.
Sierra- Laura (Samoa) The girl is strong, and is great at leading. Also a strong physical competitor
Austin- Chris (vanuatu): I may not have been within a tribe of women, but I was constantly targetted. Like Chris was scooped up by Twila and Scout, I was scooped by Sierra. But it wasn't as if it took no effort on my part to get to the finals. Chris and I were very similar in that respect.
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Post by Austin Carty on Dec 17, 2010 16:18:05 GMT -5
And as far as the question, I don't think I played a harder game than either of the other two. And is that bad, no? I made this game as easy as I could for myself. I kept it low key, not arguing about any decisions. People liked me so I stuck around. That's a genuine strategy that is under-appreciated. But I do think i played the most effective game taking the shortest path to the finals. There was no need for me to work hard when I could do the small but satisfactory amount to make it here.
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Post by Sierra Reed on Dec 17, 2010 16:30:32 GMT -5
And as far as the question, I don't think I played a harder game than either of the other two. And is that bad, no? I made this game as easy as I could for myself. I kept it low key, not arguing about any decisions. People liked me so I stuck around. That's a genuine strategy that is under-appreciated. But I do think i played the most effective game taking the shortest path to the finals. There was no need for me to work hard when I could do the small but satisfactory amount to make it here. The Ninja technique. Maximum efficiency with minimum effort.
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Post by Sierra Reed on Dec 17, 2010 17:21:17 GMT -5
Okay Stephen... Finally time to answer your questions!!!! YAY!!! I'm gonna start with my comparisons first, and i'll put you in Monica's spot in the jury order since I like it that way Darrah: Sarah Jones A similar strategy to Parvati but in all honesty, you did get caught in this game using the flirtation strategy with quite a few of the guys. This is your first game though, so I wouldn't expect to be Parvati right off the start. Sometimes your strategy works out VERY well, and sometimes it doens't. This just wasn't your game. If it had worked out better for you I'd agree with Fabio and list you as Parvati. I still like you a lot, I'm just trying to be as honest as possible. John: Alexis Jones (the same last name thing is a coincidence) She reminds me of an angel. I mean seriously, look at that picture. But anyway... I saw Alexis as very positive, uplifting, loyal, and sweet. She didn't really seem to ever do anything HUGE HUGE but she did have her moments, for sure. She's one of my favorite girls, too bad she was on a season with Parvati and so I paid too little attention JT: Parvati Shallow. (speaking of my all time favorite...) The Sandra one WAS a good comparison, because Sandra is like the all-time best, I think most people would agree. BUT I like Parvati better, I think it fits. Parvati can use sex appeal, and when she does she uses it better than anyone else, but that is not her only move. I really don't feel like she relied on that in HvV, just as JT was not relying on that here. It's merely a tool in JT's arsenal, of which he has many, and they are all DEADLY. Jimmy: Na'Onka Mixon The Pot-Stirrer. LOL. Only Jimmy wasn't a total bitch about it, but Na'Onka immediately came to mind when I thought about who intentionally set out to stir stuff up a LOT. Brett: Colby Donaldson (not the HvV version) Colby was as honest and decent as he could be. He was a major power player, in his time, and he made the toughest decision of all - to bring Tina to the end. To do the honorable thing, whether it meant he won or lost. This is the perfect example of protecting what you view as good and just. He went with what he thought was right, over what he thought would definately win him the game. Had Brett been given the chance, I know he would've continued to be loyal to his opinion of right, whatever the consequences. This is what I adored most about Brett. Stephen: Stephenie Lagrossa (HvV) One of the saddest early boots ever, in my opinion. This girl was nothing but awesome, to me, in every single way. She played hard, wanted so badly to be there everyday she was ever there, was a true survivor, and was just plain nice. And down to earth. And easy to get a long with. Saddest early boot ever!!!! I think a lot of people would agree... Steph totally kicks ass Sorry Stephen I gotta go, unexpectedly. I'll get finished as soon as I get back, probably a couple of hours.
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Post by Fabio Birza on Dec 17, 2010 17:37:23 GMT -5
I can't help it Sierra, I am pissed. I trusted you and you sold me out to Monica the very instant I warned you she was coming after you, only for you to tell her I told you right after. The, the next round, you blindsided Steph out the game, lying to my face the whole day. I feel betrayed after I was so honest with you, like you said I showed you the chat about me and Monica and Steph going to the end because you alredy suspected it and I wanted to assure you I was not coming after you, because I trusted you. I don't hate you or anything, but this will be the last time I make an alliance with you, that is for sure. In all fairness I was warned by other players about you, but I was in too deep with you to breakaway. I needed to vent to get that off my chest and thank you Stephen for giving me an opportunity to do so.
Oh and Sierra, trust me I don't have as big a mouth as you, I assure no one else on Earth does.
And Austin, I don't think you played a great game, but I don't have anything personal against you bro, I think some of my anger toward Sierra got directed at you as well.
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Post by Amanda Kimmel on Dec 17, 2010 17:46:14 GMT -5
We should talk less.
As much as I liked her in Palau, I was RELIEVED when she was gone in HvV. And if she wasn't gone, then who was? And how was she "nice" in HvV? Oh right, she wasn't.
Yeah, we need to talk less often.
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Post by Sierra Reed on Dec 17, 2010 18:05:50 GMT -5
We should talk less. As much as I liked her in Palau, I was RELIEVED when she was gone in HvV. And if she wasn't gone, then who was? And how was she "nice" in HvV? Oh right, she wasn't. Yeah, we need to talk less often. Lol yeah I guess she wasn't that nice in HvV, but I'm not sure she was really given the chance. She was still a sad boot to me, because I wanted her to do better than she did. That's just my personal opinion of her though, which is what I was comparing Stephen to Sorry Amanda, I know if Steph had stayed, your girl woulda left. Given the circumstances, I suppose it's best that Steph did leave, but never-the-less, I was still sad to see her go.
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Post by Stephen Fishbach on Dec 17, 2010 18:55:23 GMT -5
Even though I didn't like Steph in Guatemala, she was a lot more likeable in HvV. Say what you want, but she kicked ass in the challenges she participated in, and she got a raw deal. Plain and simple, James was being a bully to her during tribal council. Granted, he had some valid points, but he could've found a better way to express himself than by yelling at her. Sorry to Amanda, but your girl should've been the one gone instead of Steph. The heroes needed some good challenge players, and Steph is easily the strongest female competitor in the challenges
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Post by Amanda Kimmel on Dec 17, 2010 19:24:50 GMT -5
I completely disagree with you. Gameplay-wise, Stephenie was far less trusting, and she was also causing drama everywhere. Amanda was not.
Part of voting people out is working together, and by getting rid of the most obnoxious ego in Steph, the tribe started to work together better. Plus, Amanda's really strong in challenges, at least compared to Sugar, Cirie, and Cuntdice. Since Sugar was gone, why weren't the latter two targets?
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Post by Stephen Fishbach on Dec 17, 2010 20:27:50 GMT -5
I disagree about Steph having the most obnoxious ego in HvV. I think James and Rupert beat her in that category. And Candice was also strong in challenges, maybe not so much in HvV, but in Cook Islands, she was the strongest girl in the game
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Post by Amanda Kimmel on Dec 17, 2010 20:44:13 GMT -5
This isn't really my place to argue since I'm the host, and what's done is done. Steph in HvV was terrible and brought it upon herself, and I will leave it at that.
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