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Post by Stephen Fishbach on Dec 17, 2010 21:10:49 GMT -5
Sorry about that. I tend to get carried away when talking about Survivor  |
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Post by Sierra Reed on Dec 17, 2010 21:18:12 GMT -5
<3 this thread!!!! Stephen, sooooooo glad you joined the jury~!!!!!
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Post by Sierra Reed on Dec 17, 2010 21:27:12 GMT -5
Fabio, I don't know what to say. When you came to me, I was still suspicious of you, as well. For all I knew, you could've just been trying to jump ship on Monica to get away from her, to protect yourself. At no point in this game could I put all my faith into one person's hands, since I continuously found out I was the lowest in the alliances I got involved in. Not to mention I felt betrayed by Monica when I saw the convo of her actually PLANNING my blindside. Just as you feel angry at me, and couldn't help it and had to get it off your chest, so did I, and I confronted her. I'm sorry about that though, genuinely, that was my most emoptional point in this entire game. That was not strategy, that part, and I do consider it a mistake. I actually didn't realize it bothered you that much, I wish we'd talked about it. I thought you were as chill about it as you led on. And as for blindsiding Steph, that was just simply necessary for my game. You and her would've voted me out had the final four been me, you, Steph, and Rob, and had Rob won immunity, which he had a VERY good shot at doing. I didn't feel good about lying to you about this, but I had to, just as you lied to me for the majority of the time we were together (it was never you, me, and Steph untill Monica left). I can't say I am sorry for the Steph move, though, because that was strictly strategy. I'm glad you are telling me how you feel. That makes a big difference in my reaction to the way you've been talking about me, and even Austin, so far. I can understand having something you have to get off your chest. I just wish we could've addressed this before-hand. Now to finish my comparisons... Stephenie: Sydney Wheeler  You didn't get the chance to show what you were made of, due to what I had talked about in my torch speech with you. So many people in this game had like LOADS of time on their hands, compared to you. You seemed constantly pressed for time, and rightfully so, you're a busy person. For this reason, I really don't think you got to show, in Namibia, what you are really made of. Much like Sydney never got the chance to show what she was made of, she just didn't get the time  And besides that, Sydney was always nice, sweet, she was the "woodland goddess", I think they called her. I think that fits you well. We had our big fall-out... But that was because of me, and because of Monica. I've been slowly coming to terms with the fact that I was mislead about your true intentions, and if we'd had more time to discuss what went down with Monica and myself, I really feel I would've come to this conclusion before now. You just didn't get the time to show what you really were all about here. Rob: Ethan Zahn.  This is an obvious one, you know this comparison is easy to be made. His strength in challenges, his likability, his honesty (as far as his emotions, as far as his views, as far as his votes)... Whether you liked him in this game or not, I really don't think many of you can say you don't like Rob, or atleast that you don't think you'd like him if you knew him in real life. He's truly a gentle soul, and he did what he could to remain that way even despite playing a cut throat game such as this. It caught up with him, unfortunately, which is the one difference between him and Ethan. Ethan was just a tiny bit more successful but I'm sure your time will come, Rob. Hopefully sooner than later. JURY DONE, onto the final three. |
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Post by Sierra Reed on Dec 17, 2010 22:26:23 GMT -5
Starting with.... The guy that's been getting ganged up on the worst so far, by me too a bit at first... AUSTIN!!!! I am gonna say you played a lot like Natalie White.  Secondly... Myself: Sierra honestly works best for my personality in this game... The really emotional girl... but since I can't choose her, I'll say Kelly Wiglesworth.  And lastly... Or should I say IN FIRST... Fabio... This one I did think about for awhile as well, and after all the ideas I went through, I am going to say......  |
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Post by Stephen Fishbach on Dec 17, 2010 22:41:37 GMT -5
Thanks for your answers |
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Post by Sierra Reed on Dec 17, 2010 22:47:12 GMT -5
Now, let me explain my reasons... First, let me get myself out of my way. I had a lot of trouble with this, I have a sort of pessimistic attitude at times and it was kinda hard to compare myself to people like Austin and Fabio did... I wanted to make an alliance of myself, John, Stephen, Rob, and of course Monica  That's what I was intending to do untill everything splintered, and I was put in a position where I had to become more strategic than Rob and Monica were being (more so Monica, she was more openly doing it). I was also a big challenge threat, and I will most likely have just come close to winning, despite (in my opinion) having shown that I want it the most, that I'm giving it everything I possibly can. And also, I am emotional. I've made some mistakes because of this, I'll always be the first to admit that I am the type to wear my heart on my sleeve, and at a few points in this game I did things which did make people dislike me. Brett... Fabio... Even Rob, at one point, thank god I've been doing work to make up for that. Also, Kelly Wiglesworth became the biggest target at the end, but made it through. She made it by being immune, sure, and I made it more by strategy, but none-the-less, she was on the outs late in the game and she made it further than she was supposed to. I feel like that is a fairly similar case to Kelly's... as I said, this was a really tough one for me to do. Now onto the main ones... Austin/Natalie There is a legitimate strategy in jsut simply sitting next to Russel Hantz. I cannot deny that, nor can anyone else. Who knows if you forseen this happening when you started getting yourself in with me, but it is working out perfectly for you. I would not be surprised if you came out over us two bickering fools as the victor. Seriously... You are using the ninja strategy, there is nothing wrong with that at all. Personally, in this game, I so feel like there are a lot of big players and a lot of even bigger personalities, though, so if it were me, I'd vote the alternative to Russel and Natalie. But at the same rate, I do respect your strategy. But if I were not in the equation, I'd much rather see Natalie take the win over Hantz any day of the week. Fabio/Russell Remember when Russell voted Jerri out at final 4 because he thought it would get him more jury votes? And then remember how he dissed the other people at the other tribal councils instead of focusing on the things he did really well, which there were really some of... he did do some thing genuinely well, but his ego and his bad-mouthing the others caught up to him. Mind you I still feel like Fabio will win. This is why I put him last. |
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Post by Fabio Birza on Dec 17, 2010 23:21:58 GMT -5
And as far as the question, I don't think I played a harder game than either of the other two. And is that bad, no? I made this game as easy as I could for myself. I kept it low key, not arguing about any decisions. People liked me so I stuck around. That's a genuine strategy that is under-appreciated. But I do think i played the most effective game taking the shortest path to the finals. There was no need for me to work hard when I could do the small but satisfactory amount to make it here.
And Sierra I accept your apology for what happened with Monica and Steph.  |
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Post by Austin Carty on Dec 17, 2010 23:56:34 GMT -5
Okay I've had just about enough of you Fabio. Maybe you are downgrading me because you think I'm still a threat, or maybe you like being a bully, but I won't stand for this sorry (actually I'm already sitting down, shh..haha). You claim I was the weakest player, but in truth I was simply the more reserved. I don't play with my emotions on my sleeve like sierra (not saying its good or bad, just commenting) and I don't drag people down with me on the sinking boat that is your chance of winning. With every negative comment you make, you lose more and more votes. But go ahead and continue your method, cus according to you I don't know shit so why listen to me? After Brett left I was positive and content with me, sierra, and rob in the final 3. In fact I wouldve loved to beat your ass in a tie breaker challenge cus I think you know I couldve.
So in conclusion, stop being a douche. Thank you and good night!
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Post by Sierra Reed on Dec 18, 2010 2:30:21 GMT -5
Why do I deserve to win this game over the other two?
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I will state this once more then I will move onto thing I didn't talk about when I answered this question for Rob.
When I came into this game, I was alone. I knew Jenna and Jimmy, both of which were on a different tribe, and both of which I never tried to make an alliance with.
I sat back for the start of the game, admittedly, I even wrote a confessional called "Think for me, I'm tired". It was about my relationship with Monica.
But I soon changed that feeling, thank god, when I saw how much Monica was talking to the people on our tribe and more importantly, the people on the opposing tribe. And at the same time, I began to worry about Rob's infectious attitude.
At about the time of the first tribal switch, I realized my intended alliance of Monica, Rob, John, Stephen, and msyself would not work, because everything was splintered from the get-go. Then we did the tribe swap, that captains (JT and Monica) chose their perfect tribes, and from then on I began to understand the true dynamics of what was going on in Namibia. I will admit that before then I was kind of following someone blindly.
And that carried over into the rest of my game. No matter how hard I tried to keep Monica informed, though, everything always ended up all over the place. I told her about Rob's idol, I told her about my rewards, and everyone always immediately knew for a reason. The only other person I was telling at the time was Rob, for good measure. I knew Monica was not as with me as she wanted to say she was...
When it came time to make the moves, though, I made them. I was offered security with Jt, without questioning how, and I didn't take it because he wouldn't let me in at all about where I would fit in his alliance. So I chose, myself, to go with Monica's idea of Steph and Fab, for the time being.
I was thrilled when JT got taken out by a puzzle, but to be honest, as scared as I was of him when he first told me he'd use whatever he could on me to survive, I'd have outlasted him anyway.
This brings me to an important part of my strategy. Fabio has said that my winning rewards and giving them away was a bad strategy for me, that "making people distrust me" was a bad strategy for me...
Namibia was full of BIG players. Big personalities. Big threats. My talking so much, my winning but not keeping things, my being social with everyone... tat kept me enough of a target that people would think I'd be gone eventually, which downplayed me in contention with everyone else on a physical level. This made it easier to escape votes at tribal councils. Hell, for someone who became such a big target at the merge and again at the end of the game, I really do believe it is an accomplishment that I never had my name written down once.
Even Rob had his name written down, however my nullifer took it away, as it did with one of Austin's votes that he recieved. Which he never even knew was from me till I told him, because Monica tried to pretend it was strictly from her, just as she pretended to have my idol, striking my need to let people knew I had it and not her. To make sure I could play it when I wanted to and blindside someone, as no one else did with theirs.
Honestly I knew about a lot of stuff throughout Namibia. I knew about Darrah being safe and not needing Rob's idol, as it happened, I knew about how Heidi leaving would affect the power struggle come merge, and I knew when I voted Brett and told Monica that he sounded like he didn't use his items, and I knew she wouldn't believe me, that that single move would enable me to vote out Monica next and then Steph... ensuring me this position.
To the other two, pretty much everything, right up until now, was a risk that depended on their trusting me to some degree.
I will admit though. I did lie. And I did spill some things. I will say though that I never lied when it wasn't strategic...... and I never just went and told people stuff for the hell of it. I did make a couple of emotional mistakes, my biggest one being confronting Monica about everything I had heard throughout the game, in response to the most damning evidence of her screwing me I'd ever recieved.
All I can say in my defense of that is that I poored my heart and my soul into an alliance that included people who were not actually in the alliance I thought they were.
And then I adapted. It was kinda spastic, and completely unorthodox... But it worked, when I wasn;t sure anything would.
For these reasons... my strategizing for the future, how I could use both early game alliances against eachother, sucessfully accomplishing it, and still finding someone out of the alliances that I can truly trust... and that I am proud to say, when it came down to it, I did not vote...
As well as being the biggest threat (and apparently the least liked) of us all that are left and still evading every vote....
I feel I deserve the win, in Namibia. But either way, it was an awesome season.. Thank you Amanda for inviting me.
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Post by Sierra Reed on Dec 18, 2010 2:36:56 GMT -5
Thanks for your answers You are welcome Stephen, sorry I took so long. Busy times I have been having after my whole power problems, getting my life back together and what not... Thnx you for your patience I enjoyed answering them very much. |
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Post by Stephenie LaGrossa on Dec 18, 2010 20:27:23 GMT -5
This isn't really my place to argue since I'm the host, and what's done is done. Steph in HvV was terrible and brought it upon herself, and I will leave it at that. But this Steph is Awesome, right???!!!! ;D |
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Post by Stephenie LaGrossa on Dec 18, 2010 20:32:51 GMT -5
Great thread Stephen!!! Glad you are here on the jury! this was fun!
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Post by Amanda Kimmel on Dec 18, 2010 20:47:15 GMT -5
Yes, of course you are awesome |
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